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2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:45 pm
by TylerMirage
The Academy has announced the 20 films from this year (2018) (jeez, this year has been looooooong) to start off the races for the Oscars.

https://variety.com/2018/film/awards/os ... sv4Fx3pHYc

“Ant-Man and the Wasp”
“Aquaman”
“Avengers: Infinity War”
“Black Panther”
“Bumblebee”
“Christopher Robin”
“Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald”
“First Man”
“Incredibles 2”
“Isle of Dogs”
“Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom”
“Mary Poppins Returns”
“Mission: Impossible – Fallout”
“Mortal Engines”
“The Nutcracker and the Four Realms”
“Paddington 2”
“A Quiet Place”
“Ready Player One”
“Solo: A Star Wars Story”
“Welcome to Marwen”

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:50 pm
by ShaneP
I'm not against animated films getting vfx consideration, but they do have their own nominations for Best Animated Feature. It is a bit frustrating to see some really good live-action vfx work get passed over to make room for animated films.

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:06 pm
by TylerMirage
I'm not against animated films getting vfx consideration, but they do have their own nominations for Best Animated Feature. It is a bit frustrating to see some really good live-action vfx work get passed over to make room for animated films.
I agree. Animated movies may "use" visual effects, but it's not like they use visual effects, you know what I mean? Probably not, since I'm having a hard time articulating, ha ha. It's unfortunately getting really blurry, and with movies like the new Lion King coming out, it's not getting any clearer.

Who would you have included instead of First Man and Isle of Dogs, Shane?

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:56 pm
by ShaneP
Instead of Incredibles 2 or Isle of Dogs maybe Rampage.

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:36 pm
by vfx fan
Instead of Incredibles 2 or Isle of Dogs maybe Rampage.
And OVERLORD.

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:28 pm
by TylerMirage
Wait, Incredibles 2 is also on the list? *scrolls back up to double-check the list that I, myself, wrote*
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Incredibles 2, First Man and Isle of Dogs. So, 1/7 of the VFX nominees are fully animated films? :eek:

Rampage is definitely an obvious omission. Can't believe I didn't notice that one missing. Even Venom, Overlord, The Meg or Pacific Rim: Uprising deserve to be in that list of 20. Heck, Skyscraper? The Predator?

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:54 am
by ninja turtle
Tyler, why did you include First man in the animated film category? Or i misunderstood?

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:42 pm
by ShaneP
Wait, Incredibles 2 is also on the list? *scrolls back up to double-check the list that I, myself, wrote*
...
Incredibles 2, First Man and Isle of Dogs. So, 1/7 of the VFX nominees are fully animated films? :eek:

Rampage is definitely an obvious omission. Can't believe I didn't notice that one missing. Even Venom, Overlord, The Meg or Pacific Rim: Uprising deserve to be in that list of 20. Heck, Skyscraper? The Predator?
Yes, those are some other solid vfx films perhaps for this long list.

vfx fan, I haven't had a chance to see Overlord yet. Same with Bumblebee and the other upcoming ones.

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:30 pm
by vfx fan
They also omitted THE IRISHMAN. I thought that was coming to theaters in limited release this year, unless I'm mistaken...

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:56 pm
by ShaneP
Yeah The Irishman is next year. No release coming this year.

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:31 pm
by vfx fan
Courtesy of a Facebook friend:

The films, listed in alphabetical order, are:

“Ant-Man and the Wasp”
“Avengers: Infinity War”
“Black Panther”
“Christopher Robin”
“First Man”
“Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom”
“Mary Poppins Returns”
“Ready Player One”
“Solo: A Star Wars Story”
“Welcome to Marwen”

Notably, MORTAL ENGINES and AQUAMAN didn't make the cut.

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:52 pm
by ShaneP
Final Five:

Mary Poppins Returns
Avengers: Infinity War
Black Panther
Ready Player One
First Man

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:10 pm
by Kmart
Really?

I was going to go out on a limb and say either FIRST MAN OR MARWEN would win. Have a feeling MARWEN's reception may impact its winnability here, but the aesthetic/tech success may even outweigh its critical evaluation, sort of like WHAT DREAMS MAY COME.

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:38 pm
by ShaneP
Really?

I was going to go out on a limb and say either FIRST MAN OR MARWEN would win. Have a feeling MARWEN's reception may impact its winnability here, but the aesthetic/tech success may even outweigh its critical evaluation, sort of like WHAT DREAMS MAY COME.
I'm not ranking who I think will win out of those five. I just picked the five I think will be nominated.

I actually think First Man has a real shot: it's space and DNEG. The academy loves space vfx and has awarded DNEG for space vfx before.

Just a little side tidbit: I am fascinated with the idea that Women of Marwen's characters are not all CG but mostly except for the eyes and mouths, which are the actors.

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:07 am
by Kmart
http://vfxvoice.com/atomic-fiction-answ ... to-marwen/

VFXVOICE put most of the Winter issue's stories up online already, included MARWEN.

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:19 am
by ninja turtle
-Avengers: Infinity War
-Solo
-Ready Player One
- Welcome to Marwen
- First Man


Razzie Award for the worst Vfx of the year: Black Panther

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:34 am
by Kmart
Hey, I keep reading about how good that SHINING part is in RP1. The movie is streaming now, but I have no interest in watching the whole thing, based on the visuals from the trailer, so can anybody tell me roughly at what point in the movie that sequence happens? I'd prefer to just jump to that and watch it -- if it is that good, maybe I'll back up and watch the whole thing.

That's how I got through the novel DUNE ... I tried and failed to read it for 11 or 12 years, then one day, a couple months before the Lynch movie came out, I opened it up to page 140 or so, read a big banquet hall scene, was hooked and went back and plowed through the whole book in about three sittings, and read all the sequels that Herbert had written by then in the next month. Probably need to try the same technique with Mann's HEAT ... have tried to watch that three times now, and never gotten more than 45 minutes in without giving up or dozing off, yet I hear such good things about it, I keep thinking I need to give it one more try.

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:05 pm
by ShaneP
Hey, I keep reading about how good that SHINING part is in RP1. The movie is streaming now, but I have no interest in watching the whole thing, based on the visuals from the trailer, so can anybody tell me roughly at what point in the movie that sequence happens? I'd prefer to just jump to that and watch it -- if it is that good, maybe I'll back up and watch the whole thing.

That's how I got through the novel DUNE ... I tried and failed to read it for 11 or 12 years, then one day, a couple months before the Lynch movie came out, I opened it up to page 140 or so, read a big banquet hall scene, was hooked and went back and plowed through the whole book in about three sittings, and read all the sequels that Herbert had written by then in the next month. Probably need to try the same technique with Mann's HEAT ... have tried to watch that three times now, and never gotten more than 45 minutes in without giving up or dozing off, yet I hear such good things about it, I keep thinking I need to give it one more try.
You haven't watched Heat? Damn, it's a great film but it is a slow burn. It's one of those mood films. I can't just sit down and watch it whenever. To me, Mann's The Last of the Mohicans is one I can watch whenever. Heat is like the opposite. Great film but one of those where the film just lets things take time. Some might call that just boring but I enjoy it. The performances are terrific.

As for Ready Player One...ugh. It's not a film I care to watch again, but The Shining sequence is terrific. It is towards the end. If you stream it, you should be able to go chapter to chapter and might be able to find it that way. I found the sequence way too short though. They should have made the whole movie inside that and it might have been better. :P

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:32 pm
by The Cynic
A ILM employee tweeted after the VFX Branch whittled it down to 10 films, "Happy to say ILM contributed to 6 of the 10 bakeoff films. 7 if you count the couple of shots we did for FIRST MAN." Not a direct quote, but that's the gist.. Didn't know ILM worked on that film. Haven't read the Cinefex article yet, not sure if ILMs work is detailed or if this is old news...

Re: 2019 Oscars - 2018 VFX Films

PostPosted:Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:02 pm
by ShaneP
A ILM employee tweeted after the VFX Branch whittled it down to 10 films, "Happy to say ILM contributed to 6 of the 10 bakeoff films. 7 if you count the couple of shots we did for FIRST MAN." Not a direct quote, but that's the gist.. Didn't know ILM worked on that film. Haven't read the Cinefex article yet, not sure if ILMs work is detailed or if this is old news...

edit: found the tweet. That person would know. But the Cinefex article doesn't mention ILM's involvement.
So, what did ILM do on that film? It mentions shot(s) so....where, what, how? Kick down the info ILM!