- Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:18 am #32930
Didn't like this very much surprisingly. Felt flat and messy. Overload of cg some of which was below par. Enterprise looked good though. Three weeks later and little of it sticks in my mind.
PaulILMFan wrote:Just saw again at home in 4K UHD. VFX still stands up very well & looks utterly stunning I think it deserves the 2017 VFX Oscar for the complex but seamless work.
Still hope we get another with this cast but its not looking promising as this movie made $200m less than STID despite being better received.
ShaneP wrote:Thanks for the responses and insight guys. Trek seems to be suffering from too many competing visions now and no one person steering the ship.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSpQ3G08k48
I can't wait for the CE3K blu and the next season of Stranger Things.
I still love Stranger Thing's main theme. If there is a place in my brain that stores 80s nostalgia, then that theme hits it every
Villeneuve is one of my favorite directors right now and BR 2049 I will see in the theater. I loved Sicario and Arrival so hopefully this one knocks it out of the park too. Big shoes to fill though.
ShaneP wrote: What do you mean by reusing elements for Trek Discovery? Please don't tell me they are going the old recycling of vfx shots route like in days passed TNG and Trek VI and VII did. :I meant that they reused some Ralph McQuarre concept art from the aborted pre STMP TV Series and that some the VFX work shown to date looks a lot like the style used in the current JJ movie series. I just see nothing new in any of this & was not onboard with the series regardless I feel they have made way too much Trek on TV! http://ottens.co.uk/forgottentrek/wp-co ... prise2.jpg
ShaneP wrote:Ah I see. Yeah the McQuarrie starship concepts were my least favorite of all of his Trek work. Loved the asteroid base stuff but not his starship designs for Trek.That McQuarrie starship design was dated in the 1970's it does not look any better today! Discovery to me is just a make it as cheap as possible then if its popular CBS can do what Disney are build their own streaming content channel (probably why Discovery is being made in the first place).
I usually love his work elsewhere but not in this instance.
I watched Beyond last night. What a great movie. By far the most tv series like of the new Treks(and that's not a bad thing). You could really feel these actors getting into the rhythm of their roles finally. Too bad it is unlikely we will see another voyage with these folks. I really like this cast. Yorktown is completely Roddenberry-esque too. Space Utopiaaaa!
ShaneP wrote:Nick Meyer writing a script for this new Trek would be awesome.VFX were great I agree even with filming in Canada & ditching ILM the budget was still $185M which is massive. No wonder it struggled to make any profit due to late summer release & terrible beastie boys focused trailer before TFA was a real dumb marketing move no surprise the box office was $200M less than STID
Another thing I really liked about this film is many of the vfx shots featured new angles and views we've never seen before(like the initial launch of Enterprise from Yorktown and the new warp travel).
It seemed like the filmmakers were keen on delivering a new take on the vfx as much as possible while still having some Trek elements.
And the chemistry of the cast and their characters, especially that of McCoy and Spock, was excellent.
ShaneP wrote:It was 200 million less than STID? Wow. I like it quite a bit more than that film. I guess people were waiting for the whole Khan thing. Too bad JJ and the writers mangled that whole storyline.