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By aslan
#32406
Yes Shane, I quite like goats milk. Took a while to get used to it but once you get the taste it's quite moreish. It tastes to me exactly like you would expect from the goats character, sour and aggresive, like a headbut in liquid form.
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By ShaneP
#32408
Yes Shane, I quite like goats milk. Took a while to get used to it but once you get the taste it's quite moreish. It tastes to me exactly like you would expect from the goats character, sour and aggresive, like a headbut in liquid form.
:lol: That's a perfect description. My grandpa used to have this Billy goat….ate everything, including a trash bag.
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By ShaneP
#32409
Really good interview with Glen McIntosh at fxguide Insider. Goes into how they approached the creation of all the animation for Jurassic World(which numbered just south of 1,000 shots! :eek: ).

Give it a look if you're a member. Think about becoming a member if you're not. Worth it for the ILM content as well as all the other studio's work you have access to.
#32416
The bonus features on the JW blu-ray are pretty cool. Lots of cool bits about the VFX and even a few minutes on the animatronic Apatosaurus head, starring Rosegrant operating. :D We also get to see the walk/run cycles of a few of the dinosaurs, short interviews with Muren and Tippett. Of course it's lacking a four hour documentary on ILM/Legacy's work, but hey, what can you do?
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By ShaneP
#32417
What can you do? Well, if you're Universal and you just made a bajillion dollars on this thing because of the dinosaurs, then I suppose the least you could do is devote a four hour documentary to the very people who made that possible: the vfx artists.
#32486
http://i.imgur.com/eQVD6LT.gif
:D Couldn't resist.

First act, probably 15-20 minutes in. The two kids go to the Tyrannosaur paddock. Low angle shot of the goat on the ground, paddock supervisor tosses flare to get Rexy's attention. Then it shows the Rex approaching behind the glasses as the audience jumps up and down. Spoiler alert: The Rex eats the goat.
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By ShaneP
#32487
http://i.imgur.com/eQVD6LT.gif
:D Couldn't resist.

First act, probably 15-20 minutes in. The two kids go to the Tyrannosaur paddock. Low angle shot of the goat on the ground, paddock supervisor tosses flare to get Rexy's attention. Then it shows the Rex approaching behind the glasses as the audience jumps up and down. Spoiler alert: The Rex eats the goat.
Haha! Oh yeah ok. I remember the scene now. Yeah there was that see through log visitors could watch the Rex through.
#32489
Haha! Oh yeah ok. I remember the scene now. Yeah there was that see through log visitors could watch the Rex through.
Yeah, it's literally only that one shot, so if you're not looking in the bottom corner of the frame for three seconds, you'll miss it.
By Kmart
#32514
Comcast gave us some coupons that essentially make payperview free, so we rented their HD versions of ANTMAN and JURASSIC in the last couple of days.

I didn't have huge expectations for either, but I was strongly surprised both times.

ANT-MAN was just a delight. Didn't have any problems with visuals or story, plus OOMPH! moments like the enlargement of a locomotive were a blast. Still don't understand why the female lead was styled like Lee Grant (it works for Lee Grant just fine, now leave it alone), but all in all, I'm amazed the thing holds together so well, given it was massively rewritten late in prep when director, DP and god knows how many others got replaced.

On the other hand ...

JURASSIC was awful in just about every way. My wife and I stopped the movie several times to talk about how lousy it was - we couldn't believe people lined up to see a flick about so many utterly uncharming characters that wasted the talent of actors who are both competent AND charming in other roles. The practical effects were mostly excellent, and a lot (by no means all) of the CG dino stuff was good, and a few of the CG shots were fantastic (either that or practical has seriously upped its game for large forms.)

The one thing the movie manages to set up properly at the beginning (that the big bad new dino is only conditioned to looking up at the crane that feeds it) is completely forgotten about, which seemed odd given that putting a bomb in a potential lunch and dangling it for him to grab would have been a no-brainer to employ in the climax.

Usual cavils: dinosaur stampede shot that looked like an arcade game, some weird 'turned up to 11' contrast and color manip in post on big landscape shots flying over location and CG extension that reminded me of the oversaturation/contrast seen in the last act of CASINO ROYALE. Lighting that looked like nobody noticed that people were in the shot, they made Judy Greer look terrible in the airport, in fact everybody looked bad, I'd've expected better on a 'sneak shoot' with hidden cameras. Also weird dynamic range problems: nearly every shot in daytime seems to have some area of the frame overexposed, kind of the nuGALACTICA thing of elements underexposed and overexposed without much of anything properly exposed. And again, the weird 'extra' contrast (and that from somebody who LOVES contrast and grew up shooting Kodachrome, so I know what it looks like.)

Movie was hard on the eyes and an utter drag -- they trot out the Williams theme like it is The James Bond Theme (a problem with all of the movies, but at least I LIKED most of LOST WORLD and JP III.) Only character of interest in whole film was the sloppy tech in the control room, though D'onofrio at least invested his role with conviction, which is a ton more than I can say about principals ... am amazed that Pratt could be so flat.

Wish I had seen these in reverse order, so the JURASSIC awfulness didn't taint or shadow my memory of ANT-MAN. Maybe I should just refer to this as JURASSIC TAINT.
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By ShaneP
#32515
Ant Man was a great Marvel film. One of my favorites next to Cap Am 2: Winter Soldier and Iron Man 3.

I liked the humor too. Funny film.

It's also great seeing some of these veterans like Douglas and Redford(in the aforementioned Cap Am 2) getting their shot in these films.

As for Jurassic World, it was fun enough. I thought it was better than TLW and JP3 but that's not really saying a whole lot is it? The vfx were good throughout.
However, I am baffled too that the film did such gangbusters business. I think people just love dinos.
Last edited by ShaneP on Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:58 pm, edited 2 times in total.
#32516
Yeah, I was pretty 'meh' about Ant-Man when it first came out, but after listening to the commentary (which also served as my second viewing of the movie), it's definitely improved in my eyes.

Meanwhile Jurassic World continues to go down and down and down in my books. :cry: I posted a lengthy review somewhere earlier in this thread, but it boiled down to a lot of what you said, KMart: It's a $200 million nostalgia trip that wanks off the audience at every given moment, with an army of bland characters, questionable motivations and straight-up mind-boggling decisions made by characters. 90% of the action/consequence is driven by "because reasons".
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And that's why I only saw it four times in theatres and immediately bought it on Blu-Ray. :oops:
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By vfx fan
#32517
I thought ANT-MAN was the best superhero movie since IRON MAN, its similar structure notwithstanding. I wish more superhero movies would stick with the more basic good-guy-versus-bad-guy plot that made these movies fun in the first place, without trying to be bigger than the last. Yeah, the movie had some problems, such as shoeing in all the AVENGERS references which all seemed forced, but I just had such a good time watching the movie.
#32526
...without trying to be bigger than the last..
Agreed with this. :thumbup:
I wish more superhero movies would stick with the more basic good-guy-versus-bad-guy plot that made these movies fun in the first place...
Not so much with this. To me, the "basic good guy versus bad guy"-plot is what's making the Marvel Cinematic Universe blur into boring, interchangeable, plastic cubes being churned out by a machine. It's fine for origin movies, but it's getting quite repetitive now that we're 12 movies in. I feel Captain America: The Winter Soldier was this close to being the best MCU movie out there (or at least, "best MCU sequel"), up until the last act when it took a turn from small-scale, intriguing political thriller into another oh look the bad guy is revealing his plan big final battle no actual relevant stakes or suspense. And that's why I'm so excited (but also simultaneously worried) about Captain America: Civil War. Despite having two villains in the movie, the trailer makes it seem like they don't even exist - that the movie is going to be a lot more intimate and more personal between Tony and Cap. Like, not every one of these movies needs to have the moustache-twirling bad guy who wants to destroy and/or rule the universe. Imagine the change of pace if Civil War ends with the climactic final battle being...just Cap and Tony fighting by themselves, seriously wounding each other (bonus points if one of them dies) and having to deal with the emotional ramifications of their crumbling relationship.

But anywho, dinosaurs and stuff.
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By ShaneP
#32531
Cap Am 2 and IM3 are my two favorite Marvel movies by far. Loved Redford being in the former.

I'm just not a huge fan of most of these MCU movies in the long run. They're fun and entertaining. But, I'm clearly not a hardcore fan like I am with Star Wars.
#32532
Cap Am 2 and IM3 are my two favorite Marvel movies by far. Loved Redford being in the former.

I'm just not a huge fan of most of these MCU movies in the long run. They're fun and entertaining. But, I'm clearly not a hardcore fan like I am with Star Wars.
Yeah, buddy! :thumbup: There's a lot of hate on Iron Man 3, and I just don't see it.