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By boneheadfx
#24163
As for Trumbull, he pulled a galileo and said '2k is good enough' in an interview several years back, apparently throwing in the towel about making high quality imagery in the face of so many morons grinding out stuff that looked worse and worse.


Was he meaning that it really isn't neccesary to make the move up to 4k because 2k gives us all the resolution we need? Or was he thinking "garbage in-garbage-out"-in other words, were just going to end up with the lousier work done at a higher resolution?
By Kmart
#24165
boneheadfx wrote:
As for Trumbull, he pulled a galileo and said '2k is good enough' in an interview several years back, apparently throwing in the towel about making high quality imagery in the face of so many morons grinding out stuff that looked worse and worse.


Was he meaning that it really isn't neccesary to make the move up to 4k because 2k gives us all the resolution we need? Or was he thinking "garbage in-garbage-out"-in other words, were just going to end up with the lousier work done at a higher resolution?


It was in WIRED, I think, and I'm pretty sure it was because nobody was looking at stuff unless it was on TV. That theatrical resolution was unimportant for the most part, especially with digital projection coming (I might be making that last part up, it has been awhile.)
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By el Morro
#24166
Trumbull is really out of place in the Caribbean, but oh well.

I enjoyed the movie well enough, but the effects just blew me away!

Still, the most pleasant part of the movie was when Geoffrey Rush showed up at the end.... Jones was so well done that most of the time I watched his performace more than his animation, I thought the character lacked (like the whole movie, really) ...well character. Really not ILM's fault (or the actor's)
Still, this is by far the best CGI charater I've ever seen, and yes, I like him better than my beloved Dobby
By kofman
#24195
very nice article!

I agree that all of the outdoor scenes were astounding, the detail on the cg character held up under the most intense scrutiny. Any closeup of Davy Jones was spot on. Props to the facial animators who did the lip synch and facial expressions.

EDIT: here is a short interview with John Knoll.

http://inhome.rediff.com/movies/2006/jul/20effects.htm
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By Shane
#24224
Bringing in buckets of seaweed... :lol: Hey, I love that smell!
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By ninja turtle
#24693
I've seen pirates 2 and i say that the effects are completely amazing and groundbreaking,except for some shots involving the kraken.

But sadly i've seen also the eragon trailer before the movie: sorry, but the dragon looks very phony. I hope it isn't finished yet but saphira, from the few shots i have seen, dosen't even touch Draco from Dragonheart.
By Number_6
#24699
Better than the first!
By marty Mcfly
#24713
I've seen pirates 2, what i can say? yes this is not my favourite movie, but i can tell you that the visual effects are "wonderful":omg: (davey jones, the kinds of shellfish pirate in the island waaahouuuu...)
after i think that ILM can acquire the oscar (and if they don't obtain it, they had make work of crazy during this year MI:3,Poseidon,POTC2...we can congratulate them for this:D )
if we compare to superman returns (good returns in "2000" for me, but i wait spidey 3 nex year, king of super heroes:P ), the man of steel is just below to the pirates... because the movie have too much visual effects, and the VFX are not the most important in a movie.
now ILM exceed the feat of weta (gollum and kong, especially gollum).

I have just one thing to say: "thank you ILM" :)
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By Davy_Jones
#24859
Image

The dvd come in USA on 5th of december. You are very lucky americans people !

In my country, Italy, the dvd come to April !! Hardly wait... :roll:
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By jonroberts
#25079
Just got the DVD, visual effects wise, Davy Jones was truly amazing really couldn't tell he was cgi, looked so real, the only vfx shots which let the show down were the ones involving the Krakken! They didn't seem to tie in very well with the ship plates, and the final shot as it comes up behind Jack near the end was so so cgi it was unbelievable, reminded me of the subway train monster on Men In Black 2, which wasn't at all good either!Other than those very few shots truly amazing. The 3d landscapes relating to the cannibal scenes were awe inspiring. ILM for the Oscar, I'd hope so on this performance!!!
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By vfx fan
#25080
Well since it's close to that time of year, I would suspect the following candidates would be up for the Bake-Off:

  • Casino Royale
  • Eragon
  • Mission: Impossible III
  • Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
  • Poseidon
  • Superman Returns
  • X-Men: The Last Stand

I really think "Casino Royale" should be on the list, because it had some of the most seamless fx work of the year.[/list]
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By aslan
#25089
There are some deleted Davy Jones shots on the featurette about the character which, like all the other work on him is excellent.

Disagree about the cg on the kraken Jon, the initial shot of it rising behind Depp has a slight bluescreen look to it, but the creature itself looked great to me. Detailed and fleshy. Funny how people seem to interpret cg differently.

To me this is one of those defining fx shows, where clear stides in artistry are made. Most amazing is the quality of the facial animation on the characters, so much great observation and subtelty. And I can't belive that boat wasn't on that beach!! Brilliant work.

I would include Flags of our Fathers in the bakeoff list. And I think MI3 will be ignored.
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By jonroberts
#25090
aslan wrote:There are some deleted Davy Jones shots on the featurette about the character which, like all the other work on him is excellent.

Disagree about the cg on the kraken Jon, the initial shot of it rising behind Depp has a slight bluescreen look to it, but the creature itself looked great to me. Detailed and fleshy. Funny how people seem to interpret cg differently.

To me this is one of those defining fx shows, where clear stides in artistry are made. Most amazing is the quality of the facial animation on the characters, so much great observation and subtelty. And I can't belive that boat wasn't on that beach!! Brilliant work.


Must have missed that featurette on the beached ship,wow!I love cgi and I agree that the krakken is detailed and well animated but it looks too crisp compared to the plate of Jack, in that one specific shot, the rest is very good indeed! :wink:
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By Shane
#25106
Must have missed that featurette on the beached ship,

The beached ship was a miniature they shot. If you go to the CG society discussion, they have loads of details on the awesome work involved.